Pynie not getting installed

Jonathan "Duke" Leto jonathan at leto.net
Mon Sep 23 22:31:09 UTC 2013


Howdy,

Various people are still interested in Parrot and will continue to work on
it, at their own pace.

Various people have a dislike/hated for Parrot (such as Matthew Wilson) and
are quite good at pointing out all the flaws about this volunteer-run
project. What he says about Pynie are correct.

He is completely *incorrect* and out of line when he says that you should
"look elsewhere" and that "there is no one who claims to have plans to add
features to Parrot, and no one has claimed they are able to, are available
to, want to, or intend to fix the hundreds of open bug reports".

I suggest Matthew "look elsewhere" for another mailing list to spread FUD
on.

Duke





On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Matthew Wilson <diakopter at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ashraya,
>
> I will try to provide some insight, in the form of advice: You said you
> wanted to implement a language; I suggest you restart your research and
> look elsewhere, because currently, there is no one who claims to have plans
> to add features to Parrot, and no one has claimed they are able to, are
> available to, want to, or intend to fix the hundreds of open bug reports.
> Pynie is not an implementation of Python; it provides a tiny subset of the
> language, and no one has committed to it for 3.5 years, so I wouldn't
> expect progress to be made unless someone makes new & plausible claims or
> assertions about their plans to maintain or finish it.  You said that
> "parrot has perl," but it does not.
>
> Why do you need python, perl, and tcl in a common VM?
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Ashraya <theemeraldsoul at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Matthew,
>>
>> Can you please provide some insight on this ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ashiva
>>
>> Thanks & Regards,*
>> Ashraya S Shiva*
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Ashraya <theemeraldsoul at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> There is a necessity to have many languages compiled to a common
>>> bytecode. After much research, I found parrot and the languages it
>>> supports. I could make tcl work. I need python. It already has perl. I also
>>> want to implement a new language along with this and even that can be done
>>> through parrot. That's the reason I need python.
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards,*
>>> Ashraya S Shiva*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Matthew Wilson <diakopter at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't understand... why do you "need python for parrot"?  Are you
>>>> saying you need python, and it has to be on the parrot vm?  If so, why?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Ashraya <theemeraldsoul at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Matthew,
>>>>>
>>>>> I need python for parrot and that is pynie right ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Ashiva
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & Regards,*
>>>>> Ashraya S Shiva*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Matthew Wilson <diakopter at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ashraya,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm curious - why do you want to install pynie?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Matthew Wilson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Ashraya <theemeraldsoul at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please reply to this problem. I am in need to install pynie.
>>>>>>> Please help. Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Best Regards,
>>>>>>> Ashiva
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,*
>>>>>>> Ashraya S Shiva*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Ashraya <theemeraldsoul at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Duke, Will, Allison,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I could get partcl working with the latest version of parrot :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It only needs the Glob.pir file and with that, it compiles and
>>>>>>>> executes tcl files well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But, pynie is not even getting compiled. Please help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>>>>>> Ashiva
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,*
>>>>>>>> Ashraya S Shiva*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Ashraya <theemeraldsoul at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Duke,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  This is the sub-routine that has the line 271 in HLLCompiler.pir.
>>>>>>>>> Please check.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  224 =item addstage(string stagename [, "option" => value, ... ])
>>>>>>>>>  225
>>>>>>>>>  226 Add a stage to the compilation process queue. Takes either a
>>>>>>>>> "before" or
>>>>>>>>>  227 "after" named argument, which gives the relative ordering of
>>>>>>>>> the stage
>>>>>>>>>  228 to be added. If "before" and "after" aren't specified, the
>>>>>>>>> new stage is
>>>>>>>>>  229 inserted at the end of the queue.
>>>>>>>>>  230
>>>>>>>>>  231 It's possible to add multiple stages of the same name: for
>>>>>>>>> example, you
>>>>>>>>>  232 might repeat a stage like "optimize_tree" or
>>>>>>>>> "display_benchmarks" after
>>>>>>>>>  233 each transformation. If you have multiple stages of the same
>>>>>>>>> name, and
>>>>>>>>>  234 add a new stage before or after that repeated stage, the new
>>>>>>>>> stage will
>>>>>>>>>  235 be added at every instance of the repeated stage.
>>>>>>>>>  236
>>>>>>>>>  237 =cut
>>>>>>>>>  238
>>>>>>>>>  239 .sub 'addstage' :method
>>>>>>>>>  240     .param string stagename
>>>>>>>>>  241     .param pmc adverbs         :slurpy :named
>>>>>>>>>  242
>>>>>>>>>  243     .local string position, target
>>>>>>>>>  244     .local pmc stages
>>>>>>>>>  245     stages = getattribute self, '@stages'
>>>>>>>>>  246
>>>>>>>>>  247     $I0 = exists adverbs['before']
>>>>>>>>>  248     unless $I0 goto next_test
>>>>>>>>>  249       position = 'before'
>>>>>>>>>  250       target = adverbs['before']
>>>>>>>>>  251     goto positional_insert
>>>>>>>>>  252
>>>>>>>>>  253   next_test:
>>>>>>>>>  254     $I0 = exists adverbs['after']
>>>>>>>>>  255     unless $I0 goto simple_insert
>>>>>>>>>  256       position = 'after'
>>>>>>>>>  257       target = adverbs['after']
>>>>>>>>>  258
>>>>>>>>>  259   positional_insert:
>>>>>>>>>  260     .local pmc it, newstages
>>>>>>>>>  261     newstages = new 'ResizableStringArray'
>>>>>>>>>  262
>>>>>>>>>  263     it = iter stages
>>>>>>>>>  264   iter_loop:
>>>>>>>>>  265     unless it goto iter_end
>>>>>>>>>  266     .local pmc current
>>>>>>>>>  267     current = shift it
>>>>>>>>>  268     unless current == target goto no_insert_before
>>>>>>>>>  269       unless position == 'before' goto no_insert_before
>>>>>>>>>  270         push newstages, stagename
>>>>>>>>>  271     no_insert_before:
>>>>>>>>>  272
>>>>>>>>>  273     push newstages, current
>>>>>>>>>  274
>>>>>>>>>  275     unless current == target goto no_insert_after
>>>>>>>>>  276       unless position == 'after' goto no_insert_after
>>>>>>>>>  277         push newstages, stagename
>>>>>>>>>  278     no_insert_after:
>>>>>>>>>  279
>>>>>>>>>  280     goto iter_loop
>>>>>>>>>  281   iter_end:
>>>>>>>>>  282     setattribute self, '@stages', newstages
>>>>>>>>>  283     goto done
>>>>>>>>>  284
>>>>>>>>>  285   simple_insert:
>>>>>>>>>  286     push stages, stagename
>>>>>>>>>  287   done:
>>>>>>>>>  288
>>>>>>>>>  289 .end
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Ashiva
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,*
>>>>>>>>> Ashraya S Shiva*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Jonathan "Duke" Leto <
>>>>>>>>> jonathan at leto.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Ashraya <theemeraldsoul at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> compilers/pct/src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:751
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My guess is that there is perhaps some kind of Unicode character
>>>>>>>>>> or an unsupported character set on line 751 of HLLCompiler.pir, could you
>>>>>>>>>> show us what that line looks like on your system?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Duke
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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