Roadmap Goals for Parrot 3.6: Are we on track?

James E Keenan jkeen at verizon.net
Sun Jul 3 02:47:51 UTC 2011


On 6/19/11 11:18 AM, James E Keenan wrote:
> Friends,
>
> We're two days away from our monthly release, which means we're four
> weeks away from our quarterly supported release of Parrot 3.6 on July
> 19.

3.6 is now a mere 17 days away.

So this is a good point to ask: How well are we doing on the Release
> Map goals we set at our last online Parrot Developer Summit, which was
> held on May 14
> (http://lists.parrot.org/pipermail/parrot-dev/2011-May/005887.html)?
>
> 1. We set a policy that the Parrot project would "... collaborate with
> HLLs to develop ways of benchmarking the performance of the HLLs as
> targeted to monthly Parrot releases and the expressed needs of those HLLs."
>
> Have we developed those ways of benchmarking the performance of HLLs
> built on top of our monthly releases?
>

Patrick Michaud's response indicates that one HLL has been working on 
this from their side.  How are we doing from the Parrot side.

> 2. whiteknight and cotto were named as the original members of a team to
> pursue the goal of better profiling. By 3.6 we are to have "studied our
> existing profiling tools, determined their strengths and limitations and
> developed a plan for significant improvements in later supported releases."
>
> Has that study of our existing profiling tools begun?

No.

What progress have
> me made?

None.

At the very least, I haven't received any reports of progress and didn't 
hear anyone talking about this at the various Parrot-at-YAPC sessions in 
Asheville this week.

whiteknight, cotto, et. al.:  Could we persuade you to pause for a while 
on your other efforts so that we can have some forward motion on this goal?

>
> 3. We recognized the need for Parrot and Rakudo to have relationship
> managers who would "... be each project's principal contact point for
> resolution of problems with regard to breakage or deterioration of
> performance." I believe we spoke of cotto and whiteknight filling those
> roles from the Parrot side, but I don't know whether we formalized it.
> And my impression from backscrolling through #phasers is that Rakudo
> hasn't made formal assignments either.
>
> Are my impressions correct? If so, can we get moving on this?

While I haven't heard from the Rakudo and Parrot relationship 
managers-designate that they have formally initiated this process, the 
discussions we had this past week at YAPC certainly reflect the *spirit* 
of this Roadmap Goal.

That's where I think things stand.

Thank you very much.

kid51



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