[members] update on Parrot Foundation status

[Jonathan "Duke" Leto]

Howdy,

Here is my big concern:

I have been making sure money keeps going into the Parrot Foundation
checking account (something around $12K over the last few years), by doing
paperwork, herding cats and making sure things happen on time. Nobody is
spending that money because it is hard to do so. Surely we should use it
for some good end and hold a Parrot developer meetup or something similar.

If all the current PaFo money goes to TPF, which is only concerned with
funding *Perl* and not *Parrot*, that is a conflict of interest. All
current PaFo money needs to be earmarked, so that in the future, that can
be dispersed to *Parrot* projects, which might not have anything to do with
Perl.

Again, if the above doesn't happen, I would go as far to say that something
very fishy is going on.

I also think it is confusing: Are you speaking on behalf of Parrot, The
Perl Foundation, both, neither? You have ties in all directions.

Duke

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Allison Randal <allison at parrot.org> wrote:

> On 04/18/2013 01:21 PM, Jonathan "Duke" Leto wrote:
> >
> > 1) How will the finances of Parrot Foundation be transitioned to The
> > Perl Foundation? Will there be a "separate bucket" for Parrot funds?
>
> The transition is a matter of writing a check from the Parrot Foundation
> to the Perl Foundation, after the closure is complete, and all of
> Parrot's expenses have been paid.
>
> TPF tracks separate "funds" for a number of different projects. They
> will set up a fund for Parrot, if we request it, and the funds donated
> from the Parrot Foundation will appear as a separate budget item, for
> future use by the Parrot project. See, for example:
>
> http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl_5_core_maintenance_fund
>
> > 2) Who will manage the distribution of these funds?
>
> I'm on the board of TPF and will act as Parrot's representative as long
> as needed. I can authorize payment of Parrot funds for any Parrot
> expenses. Parrot hasn't had any expenses other than basic legal and
> accounting in years now, and doesn't have a huge pile of money to fund
> development work anyway.
>
> If that changes, and Parrot is suddenly flush with money (that'd be a
> nice change), then Parrot has the option of setting up a committee
> within TPF to vote on and allocate Parrot funds for Parrot-specific
> projects.
>
> > 3) Will this allow Parrot developers to write TPF grants to work on
> Parrot?
>
> Parrot developers already can and have submitted grants to TPF. But, the
> Perl grants committee is focused on projects that benefit Perl (Coke is
> on that committee), so the Parrot grants approved through them will be
> Perl-related in some way. The affiliation with TPF does not grant Parrot
> any greater access to general Perl funds than it has currently. This is
> simply a "hosting" arrangement for the Parrot intellectual property and
> (small amount of) remaining funds.
>
> For comparison, it's probably worth noting that TPF ran over $100k of
> grants last year
> (http://news.perlfoundation.org/2013/01/2012-year-end-report.html), so
> Parrot's funds don't represent any significant burden or benefit to TPF.
> It's just a stable, well-managed umbrella that Parrot can ride under
> (short-term or long-term).
>
> Allison
>



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